Deadlocking on indexes?

It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read query
against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the indexes
for the table.
For example:
SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
Deadlock!
Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields are
listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order in
which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or update
from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks are
acquired?
Thoughts?
JoelThe order in which the columns appear in the query are not tied directly to
how the engine decides to take locks. Why is the query trying to use two
indexes on the same table? Is this two separate queries or is it doing
index intersection? If it is the latter you might want to see if adding the
column to the first index will solve the problem.
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"Joel Lyons" <JoelL@.novarad.net> wrote in message
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> It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
> stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read
> query against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the
> indexes for the table.
> For example:
> SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
> TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
> SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
> attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
> Deadlock!
> Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
> uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
> I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
> acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
> indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields
> are listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order
> in which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or
> update from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks
> are acquired?
> Thoughts?
> Joel|||One way to solve this would be to put a copy of the same Select statement
used in the SP1 for the update at the beginning of the SP2. This way, SP2
will have to first acquire the shared lock in the same order as SP1; hence
solving (I hope!) your deadlocking problem.
It has been a long time since the last time that I had to work on a locking
problem but I remember a suggestion whose idea was to put at the beginning
of a SP one or more queries with the purpose of acquiring a list of locks in
the same order as for the other SPs. At first, you might think that making
these queries will have some negative impact on the overall performance but
don't forget that most (if not all) of this stuff must be read from the I/O
and put into memory/buffer anyway. Acquiring all the locks in the exact
right order is more important than to save a few I/O or a few CPU cycles.
Don't know if there is a better way of solving this kind of problem.
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"Joel Lyons" <JoelL@.novarad.net> wrote in message
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> It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
> stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read
> query against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the
> indexes for the table.
> For example:
> SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
> TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
> SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
> attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
> Deadlock!
> Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
> uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
> I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
> acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
> indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields
> are listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order
> in which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or
> update from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks
> are acquired?
> Thoughts?
> Joel|||Joel
In addition to others , if you run SQL Server 2005 , let DTA (Tunning
Advisor) to reccomed you what indexes are missed.
"Joel Lyons" <JoelL@.novarad.net> wrote in message
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> It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
> stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read
> query against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the
> indexes for the table.
> For example:
> SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
> TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
> SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
> attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
> Deadlock!
> Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
> uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
> I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
> acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
> indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields
> are listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order
> in which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or
> update from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks
> are acquired?
> Thoughts?
> Joel|||Joe,
many things just have said by others like replications, keep only used index,
etc, but I've said one more: FILLFACTOR.
If you have a very busy OLTP database, you can controll lock at least to
minimun with appropriate fillfactor.
I administrate many OLTP servers anda database and after read many articles
and try to find a baseline to controll lock. Finally, I've used these
templates with excelent result : Recreate every clustered index with
fillfactor 80% and recreate every nonclustered index with 90%.
You can increase or decrease this value that depends if you have updated
tables that need more, but stay with a little less in clustered than
noclustered.
Try this !
Kris
Joel Lyons wrote:
>It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
>stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read query
>against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the indexes
>for the table.
>For example:
>SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
>TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
>SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
>attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
>Deadlock!
>Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
>uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
>I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
>acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
>indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields are
>listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order in
>which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or update
>from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks are
>acquired?
>Thoughts?
>Joel
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"Joel Lyons" <JoelL@.novarad.net> wrote in message
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> It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
> stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read
> query against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the
> indexes for the table.
> For example:
> SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
> TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
> SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
> attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
> Deadlock!
> Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
> uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
> I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
> acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
> indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields
> are listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order
> in which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or
> update from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks
> are acquired?
> Thoughts?
> Joel|||Here is, IMHO, the bible for deadlock troubleshooting:
Kevin G. Boles
Indicium Resources, Inc.
SQL Server MVP
kgboles a earthlink dt net
"Joel Lyons" <JoelL@.novarad.net> wrote in message
news:4E93C8A1-6EAC-4522-9CB9-1CECEC9687C3@.microsoft.com...
> It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
> stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read
> query against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the
> indexes for the table.
> For example:
> SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
> TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
> SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2 and
> attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
> Deadlock!
> Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
> uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
> I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
> acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
> indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields
> are listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the order
> in which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select or
> update from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index locks
> are acquired?
> Thoughts?
> Joel|||slip of the finger. here is the link:
http://blogs.msdn.com/bartd/archive/2006/09/09/Deadlock-Troubleshooting_2C00_-Part-1.aspx
--
Kevin G. Boles
Indicium Resources, Inc.
SQL Server MVP
kgboles a earthlink dt net
"TheSQLGuru" <kgboles@.earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Here is, IMHO, the bible for deadlock troubleshooting:
>
> --
> Kevin G. Boles
> Indicium Resources, Inc.
> SQL Server MVP
> kgboles a earthlink dt net
>
> "Joel Lyons" <JoelL@.novarad.net> wrote in message
> news:4E93C8A1-6EAC-4522-9CB9-1CECEC9687C3@.microsoft.com...
>> It seems that a common problem we have is deadlocks occurring when one
>> stored proc is updating a row and another store proc is running a read
>> query against the same table. They'll often get deadlocked on two of the
>> indexes for the table.
>> For example:
>> SP1 is updating a row in TableA, causing it to get an exclusive lock on
>> TableAIndex1 and attempts to get an exclusive lock on TableAIndex2.
>> SP2 is reading TableA, causing it to get a shared lock on TableAIndex2
>> and attempts to get a shared lock on TableAIndex1.
>> Deadlock!
>> Of course, I can fix this by lowering the isolation level in SP2 to "read
>> uncommitted", but I'd rather not.
>> I can normally fix deadlocks by changing the order in which locks are
>> acquired, but I don't know how to influence the order in which locks on
>> indexes are acquired. Is it controlled by the order in which the fields
>> are listed in a select or an update statement? If I standardize the
>> order in which individual fields are listed whenever I perform a select
>> or update from a given table, will that effect thr order in which index
>> locks are acquired?
>> Thoughts?
>> Joel
>